What does HackerNews think of textmate?

TextMate is a graphical text editor for macOS 10.12 or later

Language: Objective-C++

#4 in C++
#6 in macOS
I mostly work on MacOS these days and previously my general purpose text editor wax Textmate: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

Last official release was 2021, so I looked for something more regularely updated, and found CudaText. Definitely very Sublime-ish, and I like it so far.

Textmate 2.0 got open-sourced https://github.com/textmate/textmate but it looks pretty much abandoned/finished.
FWIW, Textmate itself gets pretty frequent updates (latest one was on Feb 25th). It has also been open-sourced[1].

[1] https://github.com/textmate/textmate

I've never worked with it myself, but Textmate (https://github.com/textmate/textmate) has used ninja for years. It was the only project I knew that used it, but was always interested in that decision.
> Why doesn’t someone make a better native editor?

I can make it.

In fact, there are many native text editors out there.

The problem is not creating the editor itself but the community around it. If your editor doesn't supports the most common/basic plugins like linters, debuggers, painters, formatters, code intelligence, etc then it becomes another one in the pile.

Atom became the popular piece of software that is today because of the JavaScript community. Hundreds of high school, college and university students with several hours of free time during the week, writing code in a language that overflows on the Internet, to extend the functionality of a program baked by one of the most popular companies among software developers [GitHub]. This is the type of community that you need to build around your editor in order to make it popular.

Take a look at TextMate [1] which used to be one of the most popular code editor with a graphical interface for Mac years ago. It was open-sourced [2] after its developer put it in maintenance mode. And while it is still being maintained today, not many people are well versed in C++ and Objective-C to contribute to the project at the same speed as a JavaScript programmer would do with Atom.

[1] https://macromates.com

[2] https://github.com/textmate/textmate

I'm so annoyed that the awful Textmate 1 website is still the first result on Google, and has not been replaced. Every time I recommend it, I have to go into an explanation of how to ACTUALLY find the editor, so they don't just see the one from 2005 and leave.

https://github.com/textmate/textmate

[0] TextMate 2 is quite active on GitHub. I like it because it is open source and it is a native app. I like and use Vim and Sublime also, but having a nice light native text/programmers editor has something going for it. Sublime just doesn't look right to me.

[0] https://github.com/textmate/textmate

Edit: Assuming you are on macOS.

Tons of people still use it and it's being very actively developed. Check out the GitHub: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

It's constantly being updated.

Two that I use almost every day, and which continue to be developed as labors of love despite no longer being the "fashionable" things:

1. The Perl Programming Language

https://www.perl.org

https://perl6.org

2. TextMate, a Text Editor for OS X.

https://macromates.com

https://github.com/textmate/textmate

For what it's worth, some of the things that have decreased Perl's popularity have also made me use it less, usually in favor of Go; while similar factors with TextMate make me "test-drive" a new editor every six months of so, but (so far) I always come back to TM.

The two are, to my mind, different kinds of labors, though both clearly labors of love. TextMate was the Mac text editor that embraced the Unix underpinnings of OS X: BBEdit for programmers, if you will. Its balance of Mac and Unix feel is, as far as I can tell, still unique; and I think that's why it's still actively developed despite a rather troubled history.

Perl, on the other hand, is two things: Perl 5, which still powers a lot of software in the quieter realms of commerce and research; and Perl 6, which is absolutely an aspirational, striving new language.

My take is that Perl 5 is developed further because so much depends on it, and because so many people are attached to their software written in it. Perl 6 on the other hand is developed -- by many of the same people -- in the belief or at least hope that a highly expressive, hacker-friendly general-purpose language will find its audience over time, buzz & PR be damned.

> old textmate themes

I really wish the people working on Textmate right now would do SOMETHING to indicate on the homepage that Textmate is now open source, free, and actively developed on Github. Instead, they leave the Textmate 1.0 homepage up and people think it's an archaic, dead editor :(

1st Google result ( years out of date ): http://macromates.com/

2nd Google result ( actually the current project ): https://github.com/textmate/textmate

My Top two would be: Atom: https://atom.io/ TextMate 2: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

Not sure if either is 100% Yosemite ready yet, but both put out regular updates and I know for sure Atom has a Yosemite theme.

Wow, I somehow missed (or forgot?) that TextMate 2 got open sourced. Here is the Github repo: https://github.com/textmate/textmate
TextMate is still alive: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

But to your main point, I would assume this has really really really good github integration...

https://github.com/textmate/textmate

It's is an older post, but new for me and new for the HN system :)

TextMate 2 is back on track and developed as open source to hedge against potential abandonment: https://github.com/textmate/textmate
It's good, I use it frequently at work and recommend it to people periodically. My editor of choice right now is TextMate 2: https://github.com/textmate/textmate
You could easily have checked this yourself: https://github.com/textmate/textmate

One click. Fork. Done.

As has been adequately demonstrated: TextMate 2, as it stands today, is and shall remain open source. Anyone can compile it or fork it at any time. Furthermore, as it's licensed under GPL3, MacroMates is legally bound to leave the current code open source, and allow anyone to compile and distribute it freely.

Now, if MacroMates decides to create value-added services on top of the GPL3 distribution, and charge for it, it does not in any way make it less an open source project.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/gplv3-myth2-you-cant-mix-...