What does HackerNews think of hyperapp?

Hyper.app: https://hyper.is/

Hyper.sh: https://github.com/hyperhq

hyperapp: https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp

HyperApp: https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1179750280?mt=8

HyperTerminal: https://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/

HyperShell: https://github.com/holepunchto/hypershell

Adding this to the list https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14977382

I'm gonna go with a bit more unconventional advice: start small. React, Vue, Angular are massive projects with a ton of underlying libraries, patterns and concepts that you will be discouraged to learn initially.

Start using a simple framework, reading the source code, maybe even writing your own to understand how everything works. Suggestions:

https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp

https://github.com/choojs/choo

Also check out this redux + vanilla js exercise by a friend: http://ramonvictor.github.io/tic-tac-toe-js/

Learn ES6: https://egghead.io/courses/learn-es6-ecmascript-2015

Once you get a good grip of the language, and are comfortable writing code, you can jump into JSX, React, Vue, and later TypeScript. Enjoy!

HyperApp: https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1179750280?mt=8

Hyper.app: https://hyper.is/

hyperapp: https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp

Hyper.sh: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nrfEcCITAofSDPFTIkiA...

Adding this to the list https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14634284

HyperApp: https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1179750280?mt=8

Hyper.app: https://hyper.is/

hyperapp: https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp

Depending on the application needs, I'd try something new:

- https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp

- https://github.com/KingPixil/moon

- https://github.com/pakastin/redom

And, if you must use React, then I'd choose Preact instead.

I see people everywhere complaining about how frontend development is moving too fast, and stories like mrits.

In 2011 I was sales manager in Mexico, doing WordPress sites for free on the side just for fun. In 2012 I migrated to the US with my family (legally). Then I worked in maintenance for 6 months until they fired me because I couldn't talk English.

After that I decided to try to live from building websites. I started to learn JavaScript and CSS, because already knew some HTML.

So I landed some clients as freelancer doing fixes on old sites, updating WordPress. When I landed my first WordPress site from scratch I didn't know how to do it, so I bought a book on the topic and used the gig as practice while reading the book.

I was able to maintain my family doing responsive WordPress sites. Then I started to get issues with all the grid frameworks and stuff, it was too complicated to make a simple website responsive.

So I started to do what everyone tells you not to do: "don't reinvent the wheel". I got myself to build my own grid, I did it, and I still use it Today. The process was painful because I didn't knew any real CSS so forced myself to learn it, when I got it done I was very confident I could do any layout in CSS.

One freelance gig I got was a SEO tool to count the amount of words, paragraphs, syllables, etc. of a given text, it was really exiting, because I knew I had to learn JavaScript to do it. At that time Backbone was really complicated for me, so I did it but really mostly copy/pasting stuff, I was happy with the result but not with the methodology. One thing I really learned from this project, is how to setup my development environment with Grunt.

So at this point I knew enough CSS and how to setup task runners.

From 2013 to 2015 I did only freelance work, then I got a full-time job at a small advertising agency, doing WordPress sites.

I was able to get my paycheck doing stuff that wasn't complicated for me, get a PSD, make it a responsive WordPress site (with the grid I did) and done. So I was able to learn JavaScript on my free time, so I did what worked for me in CSS again, go a reinvent the wheel.

I did my own "Backbone"-like framework, and was able to learn about Object-oriented programming and how to do it in JavaScript using prototype inheritance. Then I found out about React, and started using it too, learned about functional programming, pure functions, immutable data, declarative syntax.

At this point I was using Gulp, Sass, Babel, NPM, learned how to use the command line too, Vim, Tmux, was using Linux as my primary OS, and other very cool tools.

So in 2016 I landed an interview for a company where the job title was frontend developer, so for me was like no more "make my logo bigger" website clients. I got the job, Today I do only JavaScript using React/Redux/React-Router, I learned Vue.js on the side and learned Python too, so now I can do my own backend using Bottle/Flask on my freetime, learned about MongoDB, Postres, SQLite.

And these days I'm building my own virtual dom implementation to understand better how it works. And yes, a new JavaScript framework gets released everyday, and yet I try to use as many as I can, spend a couple hours building a todo app, reading the source code to see what I can learn from it, etc.

Right now I'm loving preact, and couple days ago found out https://github.com/hyperapp/hyperapp which is really cool.

The point of my boring story is:

- frontend development moves fast, get with it. Don't expect to learn something and keep using the same shit for ever.

- learn JavaScript, not frameworks. If you understand the language you are going to be able to understand any framework better

- if you want to learn, reinvent the wheel

- avoid the hype

- if you are freelance and need to make a simple app and you are comfortable with jQuery, go fucking do it in jQuery and don't mind about the new cool stuff yet.

- Backbone, Angular, Ember, React, Vue, or Preact? Whatever, when I open the source code of a project built on any of those frameworks I only see JavaScript patterns, that's it.

If you get a job and they are using something you don't like or something you don't know, read the documentation, learn the basic idioms and try it. Again, at the end, it's just JavaScript.

I mean, I was 29 when I started my journey, no English, no CSS, no JavaScript, no knowledge about software development good practices. Now I'm 33 and very happy with my job as frontend lead developer.