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A list of tech coops and resources concerning tech coops and worker owned cooperatives in general.

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I had the same idea, and would love to help with something like this. However, there are significant barriers to capital investment/fundraising, at least in the US. For a small web hosting coop it's not a problem since that's mostly labor, but it'll be hard to scale infrastructure (data centers). You'd just end up being another AWS reseller, I think?

Some existing tech co-ops: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

The only one I'm personally familiar with there was Electric Embers. A nonprofit I was volunteering for used them for years, but they were way overcharging. I moved the nonprofit to Wix instead and they saved a lot of money and time that way. I met someone who used to work for that co-op and they told me it'd basically been taken over by one or two long time partners and the newcomers became second class citizens.

At the end of the day, a lot of these agencies just look like generic web boutiques, selling commoditized labor on someone else's infra. If that's the scale you want, it's probably doable, but with a lot of management and time spent teaching employees. If you're looking to scale it up to an international provider, I don't think it will be easy.

Still, if you want help, I'd love to pitch in. Best of luck!

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that lawyers are primarily solitary and software projects require a team? Do I have that right? Law firms still have a hierarchy: there are senior partners, junior partners, articling students, etc. From my lay understanding the business is still organized around "a lawyer" being the top of the food chain.

> Similarly, law firms are organized very differently from tech companies and it's a function of their products / markets / business models / stakeholders / general situations.

It's hard to disagree there, purely from a historical perspective. Google was started by a bunch of developers and it looks like a traditional corporation now with layers and layers of middle management. Perhaps this is the most efficient type of an organization for a large software maker. One interesting alternative are tech coops [0]:

> Worker-owned cooperatives are business enterprises that are owned and governed by their employees. All worker cooperatives have two common characteristics: 1) member-owners invest in and own the business together, and share the enterprise’s profits, and 2) decision-making is democratic, with each member having one vote.

[0]: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

Igalia are a good example of a tech worker cooperative. They work on open source, mostly browser engines:

https://www.igalia.com/

Other examples: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31456918

I am starting one with partners - tng.coop , in Japan.

There are many others: - https://github.com/hng/tech-coops - https://patio.ica.coop/ - https://community.coops.tech/

And there are many more private and other active channels! Contact me for more info +81 90 6523 2640 [email protected]

Plenty of tech co-ops and employee-owned companies exist. There's a decent list here (https://github.com/hng/tech-coops), but it's not exhaustive.
What is your definition of a startup? You can find a well maintained list of tech cooperatives from all over the world at https://github.com/hng/tech-coops.
I don't believe so, because pretty much all of the household-name software companies are VC-backed and worker coops are not equity-based so they don't get VC backing; as such, they tend to be SMEs. I've known a couple of people who founded worker coops though.

There's a list of coops here that I just found: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

I joined a mailing list recently that discusses tech coops: https://npogroups.org/lists/info/tech-coop Some interesting discussion.

I found a repo with a lot of information and companies here: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

It's really unclear to me how you would go about joining an existing studio like this. At least in North America, there are so few, I think the answer is to start one yourself.

Previous discussion: (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4333578)

Yanis Varoufakis, who wrote the post during his tenure as "Chief Economist" at Valve, went on to serve as the finance minister of Greece during its financial crisis and negotiations with the EU.

Relevant today in light of the many attempts being made at creating tech coops (https://github.com/hng/tech-coops), and decentralizing organizations with blockchain systems.

Nice! I also ran a company as a worker coop - but I structured it as an LLC, just because it was far easier. Coop practices like revenue sharing were defined through company bylaws, not its legal ownership structure.

Lots of people have done coops in tech. One decent list: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

Yanis Varoufakis, before he was the finance minister of Greece(!), worked at Valve and wrote about the economic theory of why corporations are structured as centrally controlled fiefdoms instead of democracies, and why Valve was apparently more democratic (http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/economics/why-valve-or-what-d...). Great read.

I've found this list of tech-coops useful as well: https://github.com/hng/tech-coops
Lack of support infrastructure. Traditional startups being so common have a large market of services, grants, financing, lawyers geared towards them. More of an uphill battle for a co-op. I think even licensing can be an issue in some areas.

Also, there's a significant tax advantage for shareholders (long-term capital gains) vs. income you receive as a worker.

https://github.com/hng/tech-coops

What you are looking for is a worker's co-op. https://github.com/hng/tech-coops