What does HackerNews think of docker-mailserver?

[0] https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

[1] https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

[2] https://mailinabox.email/

And the container image: https://hub.docker.com/r/mailserver/docker-mailserver

I'm also using this solution very efficiently myself! So far I haven't had many issues with receiving or sending e-mails and what's especially nice is that I can easily set up as many accounts as I need, for example, one for Zabbix, one for Drone CI, one for OpenProject etc.

Even a cheap VPS is enough to run this setup (though you might need to selectively disable certain components) and the administration could be web based, but frankly the scripts that are present are simple enough and there's nothing unusual about, say, connecting Thunderbird to it.

- maddy (https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy) (this is my personal favorite, I'm running at least 6 instances right now)

- chasquid (https://blitiri.com.ar/p/chasquid/)

- mailu (https://github.com/Mailu/Mailu)

- mailinabox (https://github.com/mail-in-a-box/mailinabox)

- mailcow (https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized)

- docker-mailserver (https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver)

- Postal (https://docs.postalserver.io/) (more for API driven email apps)

- Haraka (https://haraka.github.io/) (SMTP only) - Combine with [WildDuck](https://wildduck.email/)?

[0]: https://vadosware.io/post/its-never-been-easier-or-harder-to...

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32720234

https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

Not having to deal with rate limits or weirdness in regards to delivering mail from software in an automated manner, which would be there with any of the other "big" hosts.

For example, currently i have the following hooked up to a self-hosted e-mail server:

  - Nextcloud/ownCloud
  - Mattermost/Rocket.Chat
  - Drone CI/GitLab
  - OpenProject
  - PeerTube
  - SonarQube
  - Zabbix

If i use my own self-hosted mail server, then there are no odd spam filters or whatever to deal with (unless i introduce my own) - i send as many messages as i need and i receive all of them as well, plus all of the data stays wherever i want it to. This is also relevant for older software that might have problems with the more secure methods of delivering mails.

Oh and there's not a lot to think about, pricing wise, either.

Lastly, running a basic mail server is exceedingly simple with https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver No need to manually configure mail delivery agents or whatever. In my eyes, a mail server with everything it needs should be a single executable/container, with toggleable bits of functionality, rather than some overcomplicated amalgamation of mixed and matched pieces that would need lots of your time to maintain.

Aws ses has this offer where for a few thousand emails per month, email sending is free.

The steps are this:

1- Signup for aws ses, once you do that they’ll put you in a sandbox environment

2- After that they’ll ask you a few questions on why you need it, just tell them its because you’re a growing startup who expects to send thousands of emails per month, (make sure to say this, they don’t crosscheck later, if you dont say something along the lines of this, they usually reject your application to avoid having to serve small customers who might not scale their business later. )

3- After you’re approved, they provide you with a mail relay api key, just take that api key and attach it to your postfix or other smtpd installation

I use docker-mailserver[0] which packages everything I need for my mailserver into a small container and was good to go, it consumes minimal resources too.

For me, i just had to add the ses relay api key to the config file of my docker-mailserver install and it was all setup.

However you can do the same with any provider that gives you an option to act as your email relay, I remember both aws ses and sendgrid provide this service, but I’m sure there are more niche businesses providing this too.

[0](https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver)

Mailservers not running from your house is not really all that bad...for the rest of us. Imagine all the spammy software that your friends and relatives install on their computer being able to spin one and blast campaigns.

[1] https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver [2] https://mailu.io/1.8/

Also I have created accounts for my children, my wife with very little costs. The magic? This very well supported project:

https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

I can understand something like SendGrid or PostMark for the more complex use cases or larger platforms, but surely for a one man SaaS, the simple self-hosted option wouldn't be out of the question either? Interacting with a mail server shouldn't be too hard either, say, with Python or any other general purpose programming language.

Provided, that the IP addresses aren't blacklisted and that a simple VPN is sufficient. Do we live in a world of walled gardens, where the smaller mail servers would just have their mail be discarded, or something?

It took me 10 minutes to host an email server and all my emails get delivered just fine.

If you’re worried about deliverability. Just use a relay server to manage deliverability issues , dkim setup for you , like aws ses

Atleast that way youre receiving emails still stay hosted and private on your personal server , and outgoing emails get delivered by ses.

Ses is pretty cheap too, heck its literally free for 2000 emails or so per month, so no extra cost for personal email servers.

https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

Something like this , lets you setup a decent mailserver under 10 mins with next to no maintenance needed.

(Only had to log back in once , to update the docker image itself)

[0] https://github.com/foxcpp/maddy

[1] https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/emailwiz

[2] https://github.com/iredmail/iRedMail

[3] https://github.com/Mailu/Mailu

[4] https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

1) XFCE is the pinnacle of desktop environments: https://xfce.org/

It's extremely stable, looks good, works fast and is customizable. It works equally well on old underpowered devices, modern ones, as well as servers (should you ever need that sort of thing for whatever reason). It also has plenty of widgets without any of the modern bloat.

2) LibreOffice is great open source office software: https://www.libreoffice.org/

It started out as a fork of OpenOffice and has since become the mainstay under GNU/Linux distributions. It does word processing. It does spreadsheets. You can make drawings and visualizations in it. It does presentations. There's even a simple database offering in there, a la MS Access.

It also supports MS Office formats for the most part and can convert them to open ones with very few issues! The performance is also better than any web based offering. Plus, it's cross platform!

3) Thunderbird is perhaps the best mail client, regardless of platform: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/

It's stable, reliable and has its origins in Mozilla. It does everything i'd expect a mail client to do and i've had no problems with it to date. Plus, it's cross platform!

As for mail servers, i think that mail servers are a horrible mess for the most part, regardless of which platform you need them on. I think that your best bet in that regard is just using a Docker container that packages all of the components that you'd need: https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver

4) This is absolutely true, but then again, you can say the same about any piece of unpopular hardware.

Linux on mobile phones is a mess. Then again, even FreeBSD on certain pieces of desktop hardware oftentimes fails to work as well. Many years have passed, but this can still be problematic, given that perhaps we treat drivers wrong as an industry.

My cheap Chinese netbook (i'm not too well off financially) had the mouse not work on Fedora and some other distros. Sometimes the audio wouldn't work. Now, sometimes the mouse gets stuck in a state where it acts as a scroll wheel. In Windows, function keys worked as they should (after pressing the Fn key you could access them), but in Linux distros it was flipped and i found myself having to press Fn to use the F1-F12 keys, with no option in BIOS to flip this. The fingerprint scanner just doesn't work and isn't even detected. The Wi-Fi drivers didn't work and i had to compile them from some random GitHub repository that i found online. The distro didn't have GCC and the netbook doesn't have an ethernet port so i had to suffer through doing an air gapped install, which was problematic because of the dependencies. I got it working for the most part, but it was a pain.

Things really should be better. But that can probably only be achieved by either open drivers and open standards for most of the hardware out there, or by killing off about 75% of the hardware vendors out there, which in practice simply means that you only have to buy hardware that works well (e.g. Thinkpads).

5) The choices that i find myself making are rather easy - either i use open source software, or i do less.

However i agree for the most part with the observations about Linux not being an awfully popular platform for porting applications. I do think that this has three main causes: packaging being somewhat difficult to get started with (as well as needing to support a variety of distros), the GUI frameworks across Windows/Linux/Mac being a total mess and there being no "good" options out there, and then there also really not being a large commercial effort to make the struggle of porting something over worthwhile.

Interestingly, the GUI framework situation isn't such a large issue if you go with something like Lazarus, JavaFX or even Swing for your software, but those can be ugly, so people don't. Still, i'd argue that either of those have the potential to be better choices than Electron apps.

Try out this [0] , it’s pretty easy to self host , comes with decent defaults and makes it quite easy to setup a bunch of tools from spam checking to anti virus , dkim , dmarc , etc and gives you some handy parameters you can change in its default config file after that you can further customise the tools it uses directly (although I’ve only had to do that once or twice while setting up some custom settings) Takes 5 mins to setup a decent instance

[0] https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver