"GPT-4 hasn't gotten worse since March" can be 100% true at the same time OpenAI puts more rules and limiters keeping more interesting answers from being said.

Ive noticed it quit giving as detailed answers and as thorough. It's also refused to do more complex programming where it used to accept those questions.

Being artificially limited by OpenAI can still be done without it getting "worse". But it effectively is worse for us users.

His point is that it literally didn't change, that includes the safeguards (which are a part of the model).

He said the API hasn't changed. But what about the Chat website?

Exactly my question... I wonder if the pre and post processing of the chat interaction isn't what is driving the perceived differences.

I could not figure out what everyone was talking about yesterday as my experience with gpt4 has not degraded at all, but I'm using a third party client via API.

Which 3rd party client, if you don't mind me asking? I'm looking to move, and the space isn't mature enough yet for there to be a clear leader.

We've been using https://github.com/cogentapps/chat-with-gpt for a while, and overall happy with it, but its development is mostly dead.