Packaging was a solved issue in Linux, congrats on the 3 steps back.

The rush towards containers because they're "easy" strikes yet again.

My fear is that the handful of companies that build packages for their desktop apps with abandon them and move to Flatpak/Snap. From the Flatpak docs it looks like anyone and everyone can just get access, even if you don't own the thing you're packaging. So if you pack $newpopularsoftware first you can now install malware on everyone's computers with a single push.

It's like they looked at everything bad about Chocolatey/NPM/pip/AUR and just ran with it.

> Packaging was a solved issue in Linux

That's an insane thing to say. Literally 100s of people doing the same thing adding no value to the end user. That is a waste amount of resources waste by the open source community.

> My fear is that the handful of companies that build packages for their desktop apps with abandon them and move to Flatpak/Snap.

Good? Why does it matter to you.

> From the Flatpak docs it looks like anyone and everyone can just get access, even if you don't own the thing you're packaging. So if you pack $newpopularsoftware first you can now install malware on everyone's computers with a single push.

Nothing stops you or any distribution from having a repo with reviewed or specially selected software.

Also, the waste majority of packagers would not have found that malware anyway.

> That's an insane thing to say. Literally 100s of people doing the same thing adding no value to the end user. That is a waste amount of resources waste by the open source community.

Or you know developers could package their own software. It's some upfront effort but usually set and forget. Things like FPM[1] make this even easier. Personally I don't know why developers find packaging so hard, I've had to package hundreds of bit of software for different distros (and versions of said distro) over my career and it's usually set and forget with some changes when there are big underlying changes to the OS like sysv > systemd. Granted my experience is with non GUI apps so I can imagine there is likely some pain points between different distros/version when it comes to the hot mess that is DEs.

> Good? Why does it matter to you.

Because I have to go from trusting 1 vendor to install 1 package (and dependencies) to 1 3rd party repo that anyone can push to. That is a huge change in the trust model.

> Nothing stops you or any distribution from having a repo with reviewed or specially selected software.

We already have those.

> Also, the waste majority of packagers would not have found that malware anyway.

This isn't about trusting the software in the package it's about trusting the package maintainer, who could now be absolutely anyone with no verification or validation. See malware in other user run repos like NPM, pip, AUR etc...

1. https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm