This reads out of touch with why curious people use Hy, like me who wanted to get going with an easily accessible language and ecosystem (Python) while rewriting bits in Hy to grok some lisp magic.

No, of course I wouldn't have reached for CL first and it's disappointing to read the top-comment is this.

But... by using Hy you're already learning a new super niche language. If you're going to learn a new language why not ditch Python and use something good?

Ecosystem size is really the only thing I can think of.

Because I write Python to plug into a bigger ecosystem and I can mix and match Python and Hy freely. I can also use Poetry to package and manage dependencies and Poetry2nix to output a Nix derivation that is guaranteed to run on someone else's machine. I can also freely tap Python packages like Beautiful Soup or use frameworks like Django (which I am). The entire Python universe is available to me. The number of accessible tutorials for Django, videos for Pythonistas and community support channels is monumentally large. I even get to do cool things like use Django's ORM for learning how to interact with and manipulate data in Postgres, all right there available to me.

I can use Discord (despite my distaste for it as a platform it has a huge Django and Python community), Telegram, IRC, and Matrix to ask for help and get metric tonnes of friendly advice, suggestions and criticisms from Pythonistas.

And I can take all of this at my own pace, writing only bits in Hy and branching as I go. Every step is as gradual as I want it to be.

Common Lisp is not the answer to my needs. Presenting it as so is tone deaf at the least.

If you're happy with your mix of Python and Hy, well, great. But you know what, you can do what you described with CL too! Need to do some webscraping? Beautiful Soup -> lquery. Django -> well… no CL framework gives you all these batteries included, but what if you want to extract data from a Postgres DB and display it in a web app? that's very easy [1] in CL too. Django ORM -> postmodern or Mito (or more). IDK about Nix but several people are working with CL and Guix.

https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl

What worked out for me was to write companion services in CL, instead of extending my big Django app. This new service that takes data from a FTP server, transforms it, stores it, displays it in a web app? CL. That web app that serves another kind of customers than the Django one? A CL app. It isn't for everybody and sometimes you wish for a bigger ecosystem, but anyways, many things can be done in CL.

[1]: ok honestly the learning process was not that easy. It's a bit easier with my contributions now! (Cookbook etc)