Java's adequate. It's like a Toyota Corolla (insert your boring car of choice here if you don't feel this one works for the analogy). Not the prettiest, not the fastest, not the most efficient. But it gets you from point A to point B with little fuss or muss. I totally get why companies adopt and standardize on it.

Do I use it for personal projects? Nope. Because it's not fun to "drive". For that, I pick the equivalent of a Mazda Miata (insert exciting car of choice), which for me is usually a Lisp.

I wouldn’t use Java again because I am done dealing with the brokenness of Maven and Gradle. They are the opposite of “little fuss and muss.” The Go build tools fit your analogy better.

SureshG

> The Go build tools fit your analogy better.

Go uses two build tools for any non-trivial projects. One write in go.mod and another in Make :D (see this - https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/tree/master/build/r...)

skybrian

I think Hugo might be a better example, as a medium-sized non-trivial project:

https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo

There is a Docker file and some shell scripts, but you build the executable using "go install".