I can't get through the marketing speak or pronounce the name, can someone tell me in plain english what this does and how it differs from Silverblue? There's a silverblue logo and a coreOS logo, but I was under the impression CoreOS was gone or sunset, and silverblue is still around.
Also, is silverblue supposed to be fedora + flatpak and flatseal?
Is this supposed to be a Nix-like thing?
Kinoite is like a KDE-version of Silveblue.
> Also, is silverblue supposed to be fedora + flatpak and flatseal?
Basically. There's a couple other ideas packed in there, but the basic idea is Fedora + Flatpak for all user applications. Putting it lightly, their vision for the future of software distribution is... highly optimistic.
> Is this supposed to be a Nix-like thing?
Kinda? Nix and Flatpak take hugely different approaches to solving largely the same problems. Both projects look similar on the surface, but Flatpak is more about creating comprehensive containerized & sandboxed runtimes for individual programs, whereas Nix focuses on creating a content-addressable dependency store that can be dynamically linked to create complex ephemeral runtimes. Nix runtimes are laser-focused on correctness and their 'composable' nature. Flatpak runtimes are more of a 'kitchen-sink' container, lugging along a lot superfluous dependencies.
>Kinoite is like a KDE-version of Silveblue.
Why the CoreOS branding, mentioning of containers, and mentioning of flatpak?
I get what the difference is between flatpak and nix, but it's the only place my brain could go where a stupid name + some seemingly too-leet-for-me shit was going on, the only thing that came to mind was the new deterministic OS thing everyone's on.
I can't grasp how something with such a terrible name plus an ambiguous purpose got any kind of attention, and I hope it got no funding for this. It seems to serve zero articulable purpose. Who is the ideal user here? Everyone wishing to use those technologies is more than capable and likely prefers to install KDE on their already working system.
You probably understand most of it. Now, why would anyone willingly use a toddler-ized version of Linux? Beats me, but there's other distributions to pick from so I'm still happy.
Again, I'm not opposed to most of the underlying technology (particularly Bubblewrap and rpm-ostree), but it does feel like they're baking a cake before they've even mixed the ingredients properly.
I'm replying to the whole thread at once:
The Silverblue, IoT and CoreOS logo are in the section "Related Projects". This is probably because all of them (not sure about IoT), including Kinoite, use rpm-ostree.
Both Silverblue and Kinoite are named after crystals.
Kinoite is like Silverblue with KDE instead of Gnome. They have separate deployment channels due to the nature of underlying technology.
Neither Silverblue nor Kinoite is considered primary variant by Fedora Project yet, because they're still rough around the edges. But I hope they will be in the future due to their advantages, which are mentioned on the first page of their respective docs [1][2] and which I have experienced myself.
The only thing I don't like is using Toolbox to manage CLI programs and the fact that `rpm-ostree install` always includes `Recommends`. I think Flatpak should handle CLI apps as well as GUI.
[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/#intr...
[2] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-kinoite/#introdu...