Is rusts most loved status simply Stockholm syndrome? I've really tried with rust, and we simply don't get on. I hear all the arguments about CVEs and wonder if rust will reduce the number of these problems simply by disabling the programmers that create them. I understand the draw, I want to love it, but i think I might not be smart enough.

Definitely not. I've been a full time rust developer for a long time now. Whenever I need to write some C# or Go or JS I honestly feel quite blind with a hand tied behind my back. I don't have the expressiveness of rusts type system and I don't have the safety of the strong compiler so I have to test my code a lot more thoroughly to be confident. With rust I'm pretty confident in my code from the start

How you feel relates to you and your preferences and doesn't really say anything about Rust versus let's say Go.

Is your software more performant and does this translate to additional customers or reduced costs? Is your software more stable and does this result in reduced support costs or happier customers?

Testing effort is likewise not a decisive matter. In fact it's quite likely that what one wins time-wise on the testing side is lost on the development side.

Not the person you're responding to, but imo the main thing missing from Go is ADT's. After using these in Rust and Swift, a programming language doesn't really feel complete without them.

That said, I think Go's simplicity has a lot of advantages over Rust for a great many use-cases. Imo Rust almost feels like a prototype for a great language which will finally get ownership-based memory management right. The goals of the language are admirable, and the tooling is great, but it's such a complex language once you start getting into topics like lifetimes and async.

I think it shines for certain use-cases where the tradeoffs it makes genuinely add value, but in a lot of ways I think it's more of a niche language for people who love esoteric programming topics rather than something with the potential to go truly main-stream.

>> the main thing missing from Go is ADT's. After using these in Rust and Swift, a programming language doesn't really feel complete without them

What are the differences between an ADT (plus pattern matching i’d reckon?) in Rust/Swift vs the equiv in Go (tagged interfaces + switch statement)?

One has exhaustive matching at compile time, the other has a default clause (non exhaustive matching), although there’s an important nub here with respect to developer experience; it would be idiomatic in Go to use static analysis tooling (e.g. Rob Pike is on record saying that various checks - inc this one - don’t belong in the compiler and should live in go vet). I’ve been playing with Go in a side project and using golint-ci which invokes https://github.com/nishanths/exhaustive - net result, in both go and rust, i get a red line of text annotated at the switch in vscode if i miss a case.

Taking a step back, there isn’t a problem you can solve with one that you can’t solve with the other, or is there?

To take a step further back, why incomplete?